As heard on KPBJ: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47052674">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47052674</a><p>Previous discussion (2018): <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17376753">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17376753</a>